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Old 08-25-2016, 02:38 AM   #1
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up to now, 51 pull, 12 winks so 23%. I'll update datas when i get more
EDIT: 100pull made, 23 winks so still 23%, further data welcome to confirm
NB: i have only one mongo

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Old 08-25-2016, 03:34 AM   #2
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Mongo winks. That makes figuring out the %chance of triggering proc much easier.
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Old 08-28-2016, 11:35 PM   #3
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i confirm double winks are possible with 2 mongos
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Old 08-29-2016, 12:37 AM   #4
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NEW data with 2 mongos
100 pull:
69 regulars
27 winks
4 double wink
--> total of 27+4*2 winks = 35 winks
--> 17.5% chance of wink per mongo.
Now that doesn't match my previous test so i'll do 100 more to check out

100more pulls:
56 regulars
39 winks
5 double wink
--> total of 39+5*2 winks = 49 winks
--> 24.5% chance of wink per mongo.

Conclusion: Randomness is randomy

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Old 08-29-2016, 04:05 AM   #5
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lol indeed, ty for the info
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Old 08-29-2016, 09:10 AM   #6
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Some Data collected using 2x t3 mongos:

100 pull:
59 regulars
38 winks
3 double wink
--> total of 38+3*2 winks = 44 winks
--> 22% chance of wink per mongo.
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Old 08-29-2016, 12:31 PM   #7
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Lol doesn't seem "uptierable bonus" works at all but RNG can play tricks on you.

Yet I'm very curious if you can get better results with uptiered mongos .

I'll be looking forward for more data especially from those t3 ones to confirm that bonus does increase with tier.

If you guys have some patience put more data here
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Old 08-29-2016, 12:45 PM   #8
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Old 08-29-2016, 07:06 PM   #9
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No plans on testing any further, I feel I have found out what I wanted to know:

The difference between 2x t1 mongos and 2x t3 mongos is...about 60 mill in resins

lol don't get me wrong, I'm not bitter, I knew it was a possibility when I up-tiered. Actually had a lot of fun doing it. My advice though is, if your planning on getting a mongo, stick with the t1s as they are clearly better value for money.
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Old 08-30-2016, 03:26 AM   #10
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Actually what I meant is for you to record another 100 pulls not to uptier further as I believe you got poor RNG .

So far it might seem there is absolutely no difference (or close to none) between tier 1 and 3.

IMO with investment in 2 x t3 mongos averaging 50%winks shouldn't be a problem while tool give flat +1 tier.

....unless... if wink can yeld higher tier randomly from 1-3 or so that would make sense.
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Old 08-30-2016, 03:49 AM   #11
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A good point, rl busy at the moment so I will post some more figures in the new month.
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Old 08-30-2016, 06:17 AM   #12
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There's the chance that higher tiers yield higher increases in tier. T2=2 tiers higher. T3=3 tiers higher. Can be tested by farming docks. If this were the case, I'd get t8 mongos.
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Some more Data collected using 2x t3 mongos:

100 pull:
66 regulars
26 winks
8 double wink
--> total of 26+8*2 winks = 42 winks
--> 21% chance of wink per mongo.
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:30 AM   #14
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Some more Data collected using 2x t3 mongos:

100 pull:
66 regulars
26 winks
8 double wink
--> total of 26+8*2 winks = 42 winks
--> 21% chance of wink per mongo.
Are you sure about the math behind this? I have a feeling it might be different.
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Are you sure about the math behind this? I have a feeling it might be different.
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Im not sure what you mean by the math aspect. The double winks are counted as 2 winks (hence the X *2). Could you clarify pls?
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Im not sure what you mean by the math aspect. The double winks are counted as 2 winks (hence the X *2). Could you clarify pls?
That bit's fine, it's the probability angle Marz is on about.

If the mongo's were 21% a piece, you'd get a chance of
[1-(0.79 * 0.79)] = 37.59% that at least one mongo will wink.

I make the % chance for each to be roughly ~23.84% given your numbers.
If that's correct, then that leaves a 5.68% chance that both will wink.

*** Probably best that someone checks this for me, tad rusty on the ol' 'bilities.
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Really?

Fine, I won't reply and say that someone on this thread is correct in how they're doing the math.

I would, however, wager that base is probs 20%, and uptier is 2%, or there abouts. They'd fit in with all the other LG %s and uptiers.
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Old 08-31-2016, 02:56 AM   #19
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I think stormy is probably right as it makes sense.

However I believe it should be adjusted a bit.

Because resources with all bonuses rolls from tier 4-30 (with right skill and zone) another 2% with 20 mil or 4% with extra 60 mil invested gold is not significant IMO.

Even if Mongo winks it will makes a difference in 10% pulls (or less)when your base tier was rare.


Let's face it : majority of people are after tier 30 and only those really counts - epics are very outdated.

I would like to see adjustment in mongo:

- % chance of wink would stay or give it slight boost with tier
- With tier there will be a chance that increase in tier will be between 1 and (tier of pet) -similar to boss chest rule.

It will still depend severely on luck but at least once in a while will pay off . Not to mention it will make players more excited every time they resource.

It's just my point of view but I'm open for alternate suggestions

Edit:
Also a slight bonus to mongo when your resourcing skill is 100 would be nice

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I think stormy is probably right as it makes sense.

However I believe it should be adjusted a bit.

Because resources with all bonuses rolls from tier 4-30 (with right skill and zone) another 2% with 20 mil or 4% with extra mil invested gold is not significant IMO.

Even if Mongo winks it will makes a difference in 10% pulls (or less)when your base tier was rare.


Let's face it : majority of people are after tier 30 and only those really counts - epics are very outdated.

I would like to see adjustment in mongo:

- % chance of wink would stay or give it slight boost with tier
- With tier there will be a chance that increase in tier will be between 1 and (tier of pet) -similar to boss chest rule.

It will still depend severely on luck but at least once in a while will pay off . Not to mention it will make players more excited every time they resource.

It's just my point of view but I'm open for alternate suggestions
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