Downtiering
Old 03-12-2019, 08:45 AM   #1
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Downtiering LG'S has 2 sides .
On one hand it allows to reverse uptier if gains at higher tiers are not as good as expected. It allows to play and experiment more with gear you have

On other hand - not sure how to look at it - its a gold buff.
Now instead usub 2 x t1 pets you uptier to t2 unsub then trade saving millions . Same goes for legs/arms . Now I see sitters making high tier gold suit and pass it around.

Since we on downtiering subject can we finally be able to downtier stack of 105 without all that losses ?
After all capping IS should be worth it and I don't see why we have to split stack every time to prevent losses .

If LG goes 1:2 so why full stack of resourcess goes 1:1 ?

It should go randomly from 1:1 to 1:2 ratio
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:52 AM   #2
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Downtiered LGs are SB to avoid being profitable
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:27 AM   #3
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They do regardless .

What I'm saying : I want my alt to have 2 stalkers that I have on main.

Before: unsub both for 24 m (roughly) trade , alt has 2 pets.

Now: uptier to T2 unsub for 12 m trade , downtier on alt . Alt has 2 pets

Gold saved: 12 m

After all its not a bad thing as trading lgs to alts becomes cheaper (for arms legs 1h weapons and pets)

Edit: watches DL unsub his koks for half price and rent them out ��

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Old 03-12-2019, 09:20 PM   #4
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This is not likely to be changed. If it can exist as a single item, it can be unsoulbound and traded as a single item, then converted to two. Not making money, just saving some in very special case scenarios.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:28 AM   #5
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This is not likely to be changed. If it can exist as a single item, it can be unsoulbound and traded as a single item, then converted to two. Not making money, just saving some in very special case scenarios.
Honestly that's fine . I was referring more to downriering 105 stacks .
I think the time has come to revisit it.
Could we please be able to downtier 105 with overflow to next stack ?

As for now it yeld no extra items of lower tier and it should .
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:44 AM   #6
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No. There's no need to incentivize downtiering of resources. It just lowers the value of lower tiers, which are low enough. People who take the time to deal with lower tiers deserve to have their value remain intact.
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:06 AM   #8
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Another good reason to change it :

For ilustration purposes: pro has 100 Item Stacking (IS) and noob has 50


Before craft memory item stacking matter:
Pro downtiered 51 , reopen rod and comfortably selected desired amount from downtiered stack for further downtiering.

Noob need to manually split every stack before reopening rod.

After craft memory:

Pro and noob are as effective . The only difference: pro put way more work into IS skill

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Old 03-14-2019, 08:27 AM   #9
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No. There's no need to incentivize downtiering of resources. It just lowers the value of lower tiers, which are low enough. People who take the time to deal with lower tiers deserve to have their value remain intact.
Obviously it's your call.
In reality there is little t1 bones and dyes on AH and when doing potions for sale we talking hundreds (thousands of t1 mats ) which is really waste of inventory space for just anyone to put it on AH for sale . A single t30 is worth more than 100 stacks of t1 .

I do grab those few stacks anyways and always need more .
It's just annoyance .

Also I wanna point out that in reality it won't change anything .

Reason: it takes 10 sec to downtier so usually we can use 2 3 or even 4 alts and do it on all 4 at once to have something to do during cooldown so output stays exactly the same .

Granting my request would not brake anything other than encourage to play less toons but with higher skills /focus on them.
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