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Old 10-28-2011, 06:21 AM   #1
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Default Heroic Essence bug.

Well it's not a hard bug to explain, but for some reason I get more essences fighting mobs below my character level.

Yes the kill speed varies, but not nearly as much as the heroic essence count does.

@85 I can farm for 20 hours of RRT and get perhaps 4 essence if I'm very very lucky..

Now if I goto say Rapids @ 84 I can farm for 20 and triple, if not quadruple the amount of essence I get in 20 hours RRT @ N. Lake.


I was lead to believe the higher the mob level, and the higher it is above your level the greater chance you had to loot them.. I'm also not the only one experiencing this that I spoke to.

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Old 10-28-2011, 09:39 AM   #2
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I can't believe such a massive difference, i'll test it right now!!, big bug there if that's true, and big luck if it was just a question of "luck-randoms"
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:33 AM   #3
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jada would be correct
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:18 AM   #4
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I've questioned a lot of people about this since it took me 55 hours of RRT farming whites/yellows in S lake to get 1 essence,and every one of them told me they get most of theirs fighting blues and greens.

Not sure its a bug,but it sure is screwed up.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:37 PM   #5
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I'm convinced it's about kill speed. Level 50's get them 10x faster than I do.
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:17 PM   #6
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kill speed, plunderfiend, runes, all effect the drop rate. but the fact they drop more for lower lvls still stands. lvling to cap is a huge penalty for any1 wanting to farm essence
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:45 PM   #7
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The chance to get a heroic essence on any kill scales with the level of the killed creature and is proportional to the amount of trophies received. The same method for maxing trophy drops can be used to maximize heroic essence drops. Any data that points elsewhere is random jitter.

We will consider changing the way they drop if you can show that the scaling based on # of trophies received lowers the ideal farming level well below the cap but if it's just a couple below that's not really an issue.
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:03 PM   #8
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i wish i fully understood you glitch. someone translate!
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:27 PM   #9
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The chance to get a heroic essence on any kill scales with the level of the killed creature and is proportional to the amount of trophies received. The same method for maxing trophy drops can be used to maximize heroic essence drops. Any data that points elsewhere is random jitter.

We will consider changing the way they drop if you can show that the scaling based on # of trophies received lowers the ideal farming level well below the cap but if it's just a couple below that's not really an issue.
Simple enough, trophies received per hour rapidly decrease as you level up, because it's impossible to OP yourself as much at cap as you can at level 50. At level 85, at max your skills can be 15 levels above you, same with weapons. At level 50, at max your skills can be 50 levels above you. Huge difference there, so a level 50 has the potential to kill blacks far more efficiently than a level 85 can farm oranges, and therefore receives 3x the trophies per hour. Now that you've outright stated the way essences drop, I can build a couple op level 50's with little expense and just farm essences that way. I suggest the average capped player does the same, and essences will drop in price rapidly.
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:33 PM   #10
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something like :

/Number of essence drops over mob level
/is proportional ~ . . . . to number of trophies

\and
\trophie drop rate = essence drop rate(so where u get most
\
trophies is where u get most essences)


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the system is ****ed up, we know, but we won't change it till you figure out what i said and how to prove it...... blah blah blah im glitchless
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:29 PM   #11
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daer i doubt any low level can get as much trophies per hour as i do and i get hardly no essences somedays. and also glitch i thought you said pk and boon doesn't effect essence drops. but since they get more trophies i guess it does right?
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Old 10-28-2011, 04:12 PM   #12
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So if I read Glitchless correctly, I'm better off with a level 50 essence hunting than I am with a level 85 essence hunting?

That's a crock.
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Old 10-28-2011, 04:21 PM   #13
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Hotshot, good explanation. We will modify heroic essence drops so they are more likely than they currently are for max level and less likely at lower levels.
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Hotshot, good explanation. We will modify heroic essence drops so they are more likely than they currently are for max level and less likely at lower levels.
Disregard please, I don't want my two level 50 heroic farmers to be a waste now >.<
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Old 10-28-2011, 04:35 PM   #15
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is there a insta patch comin ? i want 9 moar mins rrt.
nobut really changing it to less for the low lvls is a kick in the butt for those that alreadyy built toons low lvl for this use
if it is that out of balance jsut raise the capped drops but if u lower it for low lvls those that are not severly overskilled will suffer beacause of a few that got 99 skills at 60....
thsi was a potential income for lower then capped people is nothing else they can get taht capped people want
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just get rid of boon problem solved people wont reroll capped toons to do it so easily
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Old 10-28-2011, 06:21 PM   #17
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Disregard please, I don't want my two level 50 heroic farmers to be a waste now >.<
to late :P
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Old 10-29-2011, 01:27 PM   #18
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I'm still confused on how I get more essence in 7 days, @ 16 fights in rapids (doing my traps) per day than I get farming countless hours at N.Lake Heroic.. Considering I stay at 85 and I'm only doing fights there for trapping - and only one of the mobs gives exp and its a green.

I farmed N.Lake on two toons for 2 weeks and got roughly 15 essence.. In the past week I've gotten 7 essence on green mobs. In a matter of say 30 minutes vs 2 hours of farming per day..

It doesn't really follow your pattern you suggest because I also looted almost as many trophies as I did essence (as stack anyhow)

P.S - TCs please

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