Arena Fixing
Old 05-27-2018, 09:13 AM   #1
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What is arena fixing?

It's a simple question but a complicated answer I'm kind of hoping you can give us glitch. I'll provide a few examples. If possible I hope you could clarify if they are fixing or not.

Examples will use Toons "drake and josh" for the testing.

Drake is a double cast dot in suit 1. A regener melee in suit 2. pouches are melee, dot, heal. Josh is a bm with 2 stalkers and 2 fleshies. pouches are bm, bm prevent.


Example 1) Josh shatters Drake's sacri and Drake makes no attempt to redraw this for the remainder of the match. Josh wins. Is drake fixing for not trying to get such a key component to his setup back?

Example 2) Drake has been consistently losing to Josh's flesheaters. He still never chooses to switch to his double cast dot suit despite the possibility existing he may win with it. Is this fixing to never try something different that may result in a win?

Example 3) Drake is regening away while he attacks Josh. However Josh continues using his stalkers instead of his flesheaters. Is this fixing as he isn't using anti regen stuff vs a regener if Drake wins?

Example 4) Drake switches to double cast dot. He's dotting away at Josh does not try to prevent his gems despite possessing prevents. Is this throwing when Drake wins?

Example 5) Drake is in his double cast dot suit but only using his heal pouch. relying on bow dps to try to win. Josh obviously beats him and his low dps. Is this fixing as Drake used a crappy pouch in this situation rather than using his dot pouch? Or does it count as a legitimate fight because Drake was there playing and doing stuff no matter how stupid?



I could go on but I feel those 5 examples ask enough questions. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but despite multiple reports over the years of fixing in 1v1 arena no one has even been bant or penalized for match fixing in it since it started right?

Perhaps there really wasn't fixing in those cases but it does beg the question.
When fixing is reported do you then watch the matches of the people reported to see if anything unusual is going on? and do these behaviors above count as unusual? Do you watch their matches vs people with similar builds to see if they're just idiots who don't know how to play, or if they handle identical situations different ways because they aren't up against their friend anymore?


I understand if you won't tell us exactly what you check for as that'd make it easier to evade... but some clarification on what fixing is would be appreciated.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:50 AM   #2
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We have mentioned that we will (and have in the past) ban player completely and permanently from the game due to match fixing - that is purposefully losing arena matches in an effort to manipulate arena standings.
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Typically, the match throwing we're concerned about is when one team purposefully loses to another team that they should have beaten, in an effort to artificially increase that team's rating.
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:56 AM   #3
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these examples all have that though. they're intentionally losing. but they're putting on a "show". does putting on a show make it not fixing?
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:05 AM   #4
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You answered your own question. If they're just putting on a show yet losing on purpose to benefit someone, they're fixing.
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:23 AM   #5
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Old 05-27-2018, 09:59 PM   #6
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:\ people have thrown matches numerous times this season and been reported and nothing happened <.<
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:33 PM   #7
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:\ people have thrown matches numerous times this season and been reported and nothing happened <.<
That's true. What is also true that people have been reported and then DQed or banned for fixing. The difference is we were sure of those cases. Would you rather we ban people who are alleged of fixing without proof? If we're not sure that it is fixing, we cannot safely take action.
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for potential throwers make them all DM!
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Old 05-28-2018, 08:43 AM   #9
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What about ppl who just simply dont care enough or arent paying attention.

Arena while watching tv, have multiple windows open and halve to loot on another toon etc. doesnt mean the match was thrown - it just didn't have your full attention.

maybe waiting for the gong type same as we farm.

surely thats not fixing?

For some ppl the arena is just a way of grabbing a few tokens to t4 or 5 tempers an upgrade or two not the holy grail - most ppl know that they will never win arena.

thats why i believe glish will never provide an alternative for tokes -arena would prolly die.
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I sent video proof of people throwing matches :\ from mains and alts etc. :\ what kinda more proof you need?
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Old 05-31-2018, 01:30 AM   #11
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maybe Josh is just a moron and not trying to throw match. what if person gives up mid fight because there is no way they going to win. is that throwing?
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maybe Josh is just a moron and not trying to throw match. what if person gives up mid fight because there is no way they going to win. is that throwing?
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