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Old 09-12-2010, 06:11 AM   #1
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Default Maximum Damage (Trivia/Discussion)

Just an FYI, this was done BEFORE 2ndary classes were implemented...that means all these numbers are actually a little bit HIGHER now This is updated with all answers before 2ndary classes and epic heals, I'll be making a post later with 2ndary classes and epic heals added.

For all you wondering what the max possible damage and heals are currently in the game, here's a little trivia. I have a list of possible maxes figured out, and each one has a gold reward for the first to figure it out This is "MAXIMUM POSSIBLE," so pretend that everything(and I mean EVERYTHING) goes your way!. Any bonus you can think of...it counts. Lets see who's the brightest of the bunch!


A couple simple rules to make things easier...and *hopefully* fair to all:

1. Please post the MAX damage/heal first, so it's easy to spot, and then after list the bonuses included(example format below). If you find a bonus that I missed...I'll double the payment! :O I'll add posts and announce who has correct answers as they appear and I have time to check forums. I'll contact winners in game...so if your char isn't your forums name...let me know!

2. I'm going to ask, that you please answer no more than *FIVE!!* of the categories. This way multiple people can get rewards, and one of the other math geeks like myself doesn't dominate the board(see #4 for exception).

3. Enjoy and please, don't hurt yourself thinking too hard!

4. IF you feel like it...and feel like being crazy, if you want to attempt to answer all of them, you may make a SINGLE post containing each ANSWER ONLY, NO explanations...and NO EDITS(use notepad or something to make sure you have them all down and correct!) If you happen to get them all correct on the first go, you will receive a lovely TC from yours truly, and the rest of the categories that haven't been answered will go bye-bye. **Once 15 out of the 25 categories have been answered, this option is no longer available...aka you have to get the last 11 or more, hopefully the harder(est) ones, correct on the first go. If you attempt this, you cannot make a post with only one or two answers and hope for prize money. THIS OPTION IS ALL OR NOTHING!!

So for example, if the category was "Storm's current max gem crit:" this is what I would say:

569 - Rk12 inferno(1-124), Rk7 Flamecall(+80), int bonus, 40 inferno(14%), 40 CE/CS(6.72% for wizard), 20 shared bliss(5%)

You DO NOT have to give %s for the skill lvls though since you'll use 100 obviously(or at least i hope you do!)

Without further adieu...

Categories:

(5k each, easy ones!)
Max Gem Crit for these classes:
-Warlock: 4421 (Yoky)
-Druid: 3991
-Angel: 3845
-Necromancer: 3845
-Magician: 4191
Max Melee Crit for the following weapon types:
-Crush: 2985 (Sapreaver)
-Slash: 2587 (Graur)
-Pierce: 2267 (Graur)
-Whip: 785 (Roeth)
-Staff: 1858 (Yoky)
Max Ranged Crit: 1460 (Lankas)
Max Pet Crit: 1062 (Roeth)
Max Crit Chance: 60.19% (Huggles/Lukutiss)
**100% with sense fear, that one was too obvious
Max Bloodlet: 529 (Sapreaver)
Max Block %: 40.435% (Graur)
Max Parry %: 41.76% (Graur)
Max Resist %: 91.37% (Yoky)
Max Instant Heal: 1707
Max HoT(total heal amount): 2946
Max DoT: 5111 (Yoky)
Max Gem Haste(meaning Min Draw Time in seconds): 2.85s

(15k each, getting harder!)
Max Arrow *Volley*: 16056 (Thatperson)
Max Melee *Volley*: 8536 from the 99 slasher (Thatperson)

Max gem avoidance %: 99.91% (Graur)
(this includes prevents/growls/blocks from both gems and skills. pretty crazy huh?)

(25k ... can you figure it out?!? There is an easy answer...I'll give 5k for it as well)
Max Gem Cast *Volley*: 30666 from DoT (Yoky)
Max Gem Cast *Volley*: 19170 from DD



180,000g total prize money, with chance for double cash if I end up being wrong...which there is a good chance I overlooked something on 2 or 3 of them

Also a clarification or two(hopefully avoiding complaints about not being specific *crosses fingers*):
1. I am looking for SINGLE numbers for crits, NOT added damage from possible DoTs, pots, doublecast, etc. (aka...the biggest flashy number that you would actually see in game)
2. For the ones that say *VOLLEY* I'm looking for EVERYTHING added together: DoTs, pots, doublecast, etc.
3. A volley(for this trivia) is a single round of attacks from ONE of the following: DW melee, 2H melee, archery shot, DUAL pets, OR gemcast. **That means melee volley can include 2 slashers, but NOT opening bowshot + 2 slashers. Nor will it include 2 slashers + 2 pet crits. Simply...2 slashers. Hope that makes sense! No previous damage counts either...so no extra damage for ruptures since that wouldn't be in the volley.
4. CAs not included
5. Epic Heal gems not included***
6. 2ndary classes not included***
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Old 09-12-2010, 06:38 AM   #2
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Would two swings from dual wield count as one hit?

(Not trolling, just clarifying =)
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

Just repeat for multiple effects.

DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:56 AM   #3
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Melee Max Hit: Crush (2h), using 96 2h
Weapon 257
max str x 1.5 = 385.5
+ crit + overcrit x(1.5 + (.33x100)) = 724.74
crush spec maxed x1.25 = 905.925
deathblow x 2 = 1811.85
vengeance x 1.25 = 2264.8125
warrior class bonus maxed x 1.15= 2604.534375
hemorrhage +34 (with spike rune) = 2638.534375
rune of pain x 1.08= 2849.617125

Note that due to rounding done by glitchless, and order of application, calculations may be off by as much as 50+/-.

Also note that hemorrhage at level 100 will always activate when using 2h weapons.
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For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

Just repeat for multiple effects.

DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.

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Old 09-12-2010, 09:10 AM   #4
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Max gem volley
max int 520 +383 +100 +32 from equipment (with stat enhancement) , potion and rune so 1035 int

(1120+1035)*1.5*1.25*1.1*1.15=5111*6=30666
that is with deathflow, dark patience, double cast, outbreak, rank 5 rune and CA

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Old 09-12-2010, 09:19 AM   #5
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max gem resist = 91.36621%
1-(0.132*0.95* 0.9*0.85*0.9)
gem(with Ca) ,skills,rune

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Old 09-12-2010, 04:34 PM   #6
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1. I am looking for SINGLE numbers for crits, NOT added damage from possible DoTs, pots, doublecast, etc. (aka...the biggest flashy number that you would actually see in game)
Luk, this one is for you. SINGLE numbers...hemmorage doesnt count, because it's not included in the crit, it's "extra."

Also, no rounding. Some things DO round in game, but for the sake of making this fair, NO ROUNDING! Sorry I didnt say that earlier

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This is "MAXIMUM POSSIBLE," so pretend that everything(and I mean EVERYTHING) goes your way!. Any bonus you can think of...it counts.
Yoky, pretty close, but you're missing 1-2 bonuses on each of those. Dig a little deeper Updated OP to say no ruptures as well...b/c that would be impossible to determine max haha.

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2. I'm going to ask, that you please answer no more than *TWO* of the categories.
For everyone else. I'll give everyone a couple extra guesses on the ones you're trying to figure out. Just don't spam answers to every possible combination you can think of.

I seriously expect this to take a month or so for all these to be correct(and to make sure I am!...which is sorta the purpose haha)...it took me about a week finding everything.

OP updated b/c there is one thing I missed.
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:38 PM   #7
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you fail so hard as usual yoky
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:05 PM   #8
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Max crush hit crit
Warrior Short club of bludgeoning 96 crusher

max main hit is 2984.96
12-257
Main hit
257*1.5*1.25*1.5*1.33*2*1.25*1.08*1.15
wep*str*Crush*death*crit*veng*RoP*Class trait(at max ce cs)
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max Hemorrhage
529.385
Spear of Hardened Death (2H) 49-244

(49+5)*1.4*1.25*1.5*2*1.33*1.08*1.3= 529.385

min*spk*ps*veng*crit*db*critad*RoP*Class trait Rouge

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Old 09-12-2010, 11:30 PM   #9
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ok 99 1h slasher melee volley

20-166 damage

max: 1.2*1.15*1.5*1.5*1.25*1.33*2*1.08*166=1850.90913
min: 1.2*1.5*1.33*1.08*2*1.25*(20+5)=161.595
envenomation potion=24
weapon proc=37
slice=60

1850.90913+161.595+24+37+60=2133.50413*4=8534.0165 2
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:40 PM   #10
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1st correct answer: 2985 for a single 2H 96 crush crit
5k awarded

2nd correct answer: Max Bloodlet of 529 from the 99 2H Piercer!
5k awarded

OP updated...23 categories left!


Btw Pk you're on the right track. Still missing something though
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Old 09-13-2010, 05:00 AM   #11
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Ok let's go for max crit chance:
Note i did chance not to crit and subtracted in the end, because for some reason i prefer it that way.

Melee:
Maxed Critical Strike: 75% chance to not occur
epic 99 legging: 98% x 75% = 73.5%
epic 99 legging again: x 98% = 72.03%
99 Epic Bow: x98% = 70.5894
Critical rune r5: 94% = 66.354036
Max 1H crit % shown above from here down, it is for 2H only
Two-handed maxed: x 60% = 39.8124216

So, reversed that would be 60.1875784% chance for a 2H melee crit, and a 33.645964% chance for a 1H/DW melee crit.

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Archery:
Critical Shot maxed: 80%
Serial Crit maxed: x 85% = 68%
Leggings and bow x 98% x 98% x 98 % = 64.001056%
Critical rune rank 5: x 94% = 60.16099264%
Final Answer: 39.83900736%
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DD:
Destruction with staff: 70%
Epic 99 Leggings/bow : x 98% x 98% x 98% = 65.88344%
Critical rune rank 5: x 94% = 61.9304336%
Final Answer: 38.0695664%
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Pet (almost forgot this!)
Predacity: 90%
Whip: x 80% = 72%
Leggings/Bow: x 98% x 98% x 98% = 67.765824%
Rune: x 94% = 63.69987456%
Final Answer: 36.30012544%
*Sense Fear: 100% = 100%




*Sense fear only applies to targets under 20% hp. if target is above 20% hp, crit chance will be 36%.
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

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Just repeat for multiple effects.

DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.

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Old 09-13-2010, 05:07 AM   #12
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i updated the 2 i did. I forgot shared bliss and sage rune... gonna double check nothing else i missed now

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Old 09-13-2010, 05:11 AM   #13
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Stormy please add max hp calculation as a category?
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Just repeat for multiple effects.

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you fail so hard as usual yoky
that was quite unnecessary


and huggles I dont want to start an argument here but he said to only answer 2 things and you have done 5 so far. or did you mean for all that for only the max crit chance?

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Old 09-13-2010, 11:24 AM   #15
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ok i updated mine i left out potions i used r15 envenom for it cause envenom does more than flashburn i still have this feeling im leaving somethin out tho
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  • Stand on your head for 5+ minutes +33%

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One of Huggles/Luk's got answered before he figured it out. Max crit chance is only 1 category btw, you have to figure out what weap type has the highest chance.

Luk, read Glitchless's siggy please. Perhaps that may help your calculations Hint: they're a little high.

Also, max HP is...hard b/c no one has the Dur formula that I know of except Glitch. sorry :\

Yoky please list bonuses for max gem avoidance, b/c that is slightly higher than what I have(for the 5k answer). Big chance for 10k here if I missed something

Pk, getting warmer. Perhaps you should check a couple different weapons out tho?
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i tried different weaponst but i couldnt find anything ill go around and look some more after i get off of work tho
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  • Fix and eat a sandwich +15%
  • Watch TV -5%
  • Urinate +20%
  • Finish your homework +10%
  • Stand on your head for 5+ minutes +33%

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Old 09-13-2010, 06:33 PM   #18
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damm it does that mean its wrong again on the rest of them... I listed the resist causes and updated the total avoidance as well i missed a few things.

...and if i hadnt already tried for 2 categories I would do pks one I found it since i was bored its only a bit higher than what hes got now tho
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yoky enchanters get a 15% bonus to grey resistance aura gems
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:42 PM   #20
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true its easy to forget things when theres so much to take into account. I also just realized what was wrong in the gem volley one as well

changed them both ill prob make it my last time since its my 3rd try now

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