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Old 10-13-2011, 07:48 PM   #1
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Default Unbalanced Trophy Drops

Two accounts, same level, skills about the same. Nibbles is a bit stronger, but Oprichniki gets more trophies. This has not happened once or twice. Oprichniki gets more trophies every time I farm, even with both accounts farming, grouped, on the same square, at the same level, with accel/rrt, and arena.

Nibbles's trophs on the left, Oprichniki's on the right
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

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Old 10-13-2011, 10:43 PM   #2
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1) You know MSPaint has a text function, right?
2) I've also noticed this trend. Although I don't want to draw attention to it, one of my characters (and only one) has always gotten a drop at 3 hours of rrt. Sometimes it's 2.5-3.5 hours, but it averages out. (I know it's not trophy drops, but it's along the same lines.)
3) That character used to group with another character of mine and has always received more trophies.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:44 AM   #3
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Umm, low levels tend to get drops in less time than capped toons.. It changes with every so many levels gained, or atleast that's what I've been lead to believe..
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Old 10-14-2011, 05:17 AM   #4
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Umm, low levels tend to get drops in less time than capped toons.. It changes with every so many levels gained, or atleast that's what I've been lead to believe..
But both chars are the same level, fighting the same mobs together.
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DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.
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Old 10-14-2011, 05:18 AM   #5
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Umm, low levels tend to get drops in less time than capped toons.. It changes with every so many levels gained, or atleast that's what I've been lead to believe..
re-read post again. same level toons.
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:11 AM   #6
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<sighs>

I read the post, and if you read what I said.. I said they get DROPS at faster rates (3-4 hours RRT from my experience)



I could really careless about the amount of trophies, because I have noticed one of my toons getting more than another aswell.. but he doesn't ALWAYS get more, but majority of the time yes he does..
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:09 AM   #7
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Do moar testing, geef solid numbers.

"Skills about the same" needs explainded.

Same build or different? How similar are keel speeds? Plunderfiend?
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:27 AM   #8
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Hmm, one example of getting 255 trophies vice getting 303 trophies over the same period of time. That's not a huge difference, and one example is hardly representative. Keep this same record for 40 to 50 examples and you might demonstrate something.
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:22 PM   #9
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18% difference in drops? That's alot to me. Will record data every day now. And neither account has any levels in Plunderfiend.

About skills-
Nibs (vamp)- all weapon skills 20, slash 18 (bloodclaw equipped)
Opr (DK)- all weapon skills 20, crush 22 (bbwc)

They are about the same kill speed though people I've PLed have said nibbles is faster. But it doesn't (shouldn't) matter when I group them together.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:06 PM   #10
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again nibs on left
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

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DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.
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Old 10-15-2011, 03:56 AM   #11
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You numbers aren't nearly the same.. They have two completely different builds, or weapons rather.. This isn't even a contest IMO. "nearly the same" could be a 2-3 second difference, which at the end of the night could add up to like 20 fights..

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Old 10-15-2011, 04:03 AM   #12
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Umm, low levels tend to get drops in less time than capped toons.. It changes with every so many levels gained, or atleast that's what I've been lead to believe..
You don't even seem to bother reading the original posts.
If only you knew the amount of useless thoughts you share...

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Personally I haven't noticed so much of this trend - not in a way that the same character always gets more lucky, or something.

However, the game can get unfairly random, while in Heroic Mode, I can just as easily kill a mob without taking damage (miss miss miss prevent, parry, etc) as I can get continuously bloodletted, heavy hitted, etc.

The game gets unbearably random sometimes.

There's a way to fix it, without ruining the random factor, but people would whine about it anyway.
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:04 AM   #13
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What do you mean I didnt read the post. My first post said somethign about item drops, not trophies - 2 people didn't read MY POST to realize that.

Having general skills in the same area doesn't mean anything, or change the fact my statement is correct or not. I mean just perhaps, just perhaps the game is rewards the stronger character out of the group with more trophies/drops?

Same level, or near (not in the black range - that the PL nerf was introduced for).. grouped or not.. one of the two weapon types will be stronger.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:28 AM   #14
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Jadakris. You said lower level toons get items in less time.
Lower level comparing to what?

If you weren't talking about Trophies, you're an ******* because that's what this thread is about.
Regardless of whether you were or not talking about Trophies, Huggles was comparing between two characters of the same level, same skills.

Whatever excuse you come up with, in the end you still made a 100% useless comment.

You lack humility by the pots, honestly.
Would do you well to admit when you're wrong and evolve.

I for one am not here on a quest to prove you wrong.
I just pointed something that I see from you in plenty threads.

If you do read things through and think about them, your posts don't really reflect that most of the time.

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Old 10-16-2011, 03:37 AM   #15
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Again, pull your own head out of your ass and stop accusing me of what your doing.

I said lower levels get drops in about 3-4 hours and seemingly increases as levels go up.


I don't really care about your pointless mission to prove me wrong, because quite frankly I'm simply going to start ignoring your posts. Every thread/post you make it is shot at me, when in reality your doing the same thing you accuse me of.
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