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Old 01-24-2013, 12:10 PM   #1
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When you puncture with a pierce weapon since it ignores all armor does that mean it will not trigger a hellram, samurai, aliangel procs as well as some others?
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:46 PM   #2
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From what I read, it ignores AC, not procs, but that's just my guess.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:19 PM   #3
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Well seeing as puncture is a proc that is caused by a hit, that same hit that caused puncture could cause armor procs. The puncture itself isnt proccing the armor, but the source of it is, seeing as a puncture can not exist on its own.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:20 PM   #4
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From what I read, it ignores AC, not procs, but that's just my guess.

This is correct.
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:42 PM   #5
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We'll fix the description to avoid confusion.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:47 PM   #6
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150 damage is lame! Make it be affected by critical strike/overcrit, deathblow, vengeance, weighted steel gem!
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:37 PM   #7
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150 dmg is lame...but so is the amount from burning soul, slice, and the archery ones that I've temporarily forgotten. All these fixed amount of dmg skills mean little since we all got much stronger.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:29 PM   #8
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The 150 damage is a small part of what puncture does. Ignoring AC for a hit is a scaling benefit.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:09 PM   #9
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But does the weapon hit ignore the armor? or does just the 150dmg ignore the armor? I was always under the impression the armor part just meant regardless of their AC you get the 150 dmg (or less depending on level)
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:13 PM   #10
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But does the weapon hit ignore the armor? or does just the 150dmg ignore the armor? I was always under the impression the armor part just meant regardless of their AC you get the 150 dmg (or less depending on level)
no, the damage from the hit is meant to ignore the armor.

but in saying that, ive personally, never really noticed a massive difference in damage from it. the fact that its a RNG developing the damage that is caused, means it can be lower then a normal hit, and as it does nothing BUY ignore the damage, if its a lower hit then normal, you have basically been screwed
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:07 AM   #11
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Make it ignore dmg shield effects if you want a buff so badly? never played a piercer, but considering that some jokers run around in arena with 5k+ ac the skill doesnt seem too much worse than slice or smash.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:12 PM   #12
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Ignoring armor it is a big a benefit indeed. But what if there is no armor to ignore? I haven`t seen many players with high ac. And neither the mobs does not seem to have high ac.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:55 PM   #13
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any AC adds mitigation. you are not going to roflpwn someone with a puncture you will just hit them for full damage with no mit from AC
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any AC adds mitigation. you are not going to roflpwn someone with a puncture you will just hit them for full damage with no mit from AC
^^ this.

the only thing is, cause its a random hit, you can hit less then other hits, while having this proc.

imo, if it were to be buffed, make it a higher % chance to hit max damage, so that it actually does something benefitial with the proc.

but thats imo lol.
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