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Old 03-18-2013, 11:13 PM   #1
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Hey i think it would be a cool and good idea to have a cloak that can hide our stats and gear from /inspect... or make it so that the cloak doesnt allow us to be inspected... it gives this msg " that person is invisable" u want us to lvl up to cap u want us all to be unique, we cant do that if every 1 can see what r doing. thx for ur time, hope other will agree with me.






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Old 03-18-2013, 11:56 PM   #2
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Fully agreed, although I would prefer a "ON/OFF" option.

Best example of copiers from my PERSONAL experience was in season 2, when Spdkillz copied my team/San's team verbatim. They were very strong considering they were bots. Just not fair to compare real people to robots when the "examine [and copy]" option exists.

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Old 03-19-2013, 03:46 AM   #3
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there was supposed to be a 'set equipment as stuff people will see' button, which says coming soon. but its been saying that for like two years +
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:08 AM   #4
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there was supposed to be a 'set equipment as stuff people will see' button, which says coming soon. but its been saying that for like two years +
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and i support, something to let me make my gear show to people as the lvl 1 gear and im happy
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:43 AM   #5
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I am in agreement with & support of this idea.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:42 PM   #6
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Or go back to where you can only inspect people that are on your square.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:08 PM   #7
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If you can hide your equipment how could you evaluate an opponents strength? This could be translated as a PK nerf because you have no idea who you're fighting. Perhaps you're a fresh level 85 and you feel exceptionally daring today, I guarantee you are not going to last 5 minutes.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:13 PM   #8
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I support, like Dest said... but this should be intended only for arena reasons.. Skarner has a good point. Tyger said something about the same square only like it used to be, thing is that arena is in the same square as well so... i dont know perhaps we should try to elaborate a better suggestion on this...
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:14 PM   #9
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If you can hide your equipment how could you evaluate an opponents strength? This could be translated as a PK nerf because you have no idea who you're fighting. Perhaps you're a fresh level 85 and you feel exceptionally daring today, I guarantee you are not going to last 5 minutes.
no it isnt, its back to how it was
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:34 PM   #10
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If you can hide your equipment how could you evaluate an opponents strength? This could be translated as a PK nerf because you have no idea who you're fighting. Perhaps you're a fresh level 85 and you feel exceptionally daring today, I guarantee you are not going to last 5 minutes.
No "fresh" pk level 85 would stand a chance against capped players these days. The whole point of combat is for the stronger person to win. Having someone "examine" you is just asking someone to hold your hand and tell you how to beat that person. No one should be FORCED to be viewed by everyone. That just makes things too easy.

Pk's already have reroller's boon, triple exp and tropies, really what else do they need.

Need more suggestions though to keep this board alive.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:52 PM   #11
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Make it to where only pk's can inspect peep's stats? That would give them the opportunity to avoid a strong player and may give more incentive for pks to be roaming around since some peeps like to copy others.

There may be some flaws w/ this set-up, but that's my 2 cents on the subject
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:10 AM   #12
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Putting it back to the on square to inspect seems like the best idea. In arena you have 10 seconds before the start of the match to quickly evaluate your opponent and decided what to do. That is fair, because if you're gonna fight someone and not know what they have ahead of time then when you come to that fight you should see what they're using and be able to make adjustments accordingly as best you can, that's how fighting actually works last I heard...if someone gives up a match to just sit inspecting the other team then good for the other team, they get the win and when the next time they fight rolls around they have the same opportunity to inspect the enemy, see they changed something, and adjust accordingly as they can..if it falls short then they know to change something and try something new next go around...and don't forget that once someone dies they can no longer inspect the enemy, they only get the 10s period and the time that their toon is alive...yea
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:50 AM   #13
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Make it to where only pk's can inspect peep's stats? That would give them the opportunity to avoid a strong player and may give more incentive for pks to be roaming around since some peeps like to copy others.
Awesome idea. Pk's are risking their gear, so they should be the only ones allowed to inspect.

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Putting it back to the on square to inspect seems like the best idea. In arena you have 10 seconds before the start of the match to quickly evaluate your opponent and decided what to do. That is fair, because if you're gonna fight someone and not know what they have ahead of time then when you come to that fight you should see what they're using and be able to make adjustments accordingly as best you can, that's how fighting actually works last I heard...if someone gives up a match to just sit inspecting the other team then good for the other team, they get the win and when the next time they fight rolls around they have the same opportunity to inspect the enemy, see they changed something, and adjust accordingly as they can..if it falls short then they know to change something and try something new next go around...and don't forget that once someone dies they can no longer inspect the enemy, they only get the 10s period and the time that their toon is alive...yea
Again, the problem I see arising is what you just said - people just sitting their and copying other people's builds during the fights using a notepad or jotting down notes. I don't see as to why that should even be remotely possible..
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:53 AM   #14
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make it so only PKs can inspect then all the people who want to copy a build....will just make a pk toon...dont have to kill someone to be a PK dont even have to stay paid
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:03 AM   #15
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make it so only PKs can inspect then all the people who want to copy a build....will just make a pk toon...dont have to kill someone to be a PK dont even have to stay paid
You're absolutely right. People would just use Pk's to copy other people still. Still need better ideas..ones preferably where the individual person has the power to allow people to view them.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:14 AM   #16
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the one problem i see with making it to where you have to be on the same square, is how many ppl are sitting in towns. i, myself stay in towns alot if im afk. instead of logging off or closing my window. it keeps my window up so i dont have to reload it and relog in all the time. i like the cloak idea, with the option of it being an on/off option for ppl who really dont care if they are viewed. (just my 2-cent worth)
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:04 AM   #17
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Perhaps cosmetic armor pieces to hide the real armor as well? Something maybe craftable? A lot of other larger games and mmo's use cosmetic gear as an option for players who do not wish for their fighting gear to be examined.
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:21 PM   #18
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Perhaps cosmetic armor pieces to hide the real armor as well? Something maybe craftable? A lot of other larger games and mmo's use cosmetic gear as an option for players who do not wish for their fighting gear to be examined.
I love this idea...I could hide the hideous looking demonskull bp and have a cosmetic suit that actually matches and looks good. Maybe have some less butch cosmetic suits to choose from too. Unique cosmetic armor aution? I want a zirco bp with a purple and silver cape, earthfusion legs in zirco colours etc (cos the zirco legs look like there are spiders on the feet). Ofc these armor pieces would have no ac, stats and have no link to the actual armor that is underneath when viewed.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:13 AM   #19
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how about a "set to pve" option for your gear. This would work as the same as "set to pvp" option. In other words, roam around w/ crummy gear in your 3rd equip set. Enter arena, set changes to pvp, enter pit mob, switches to pve.

Only problem w/ this though is that they can still examine you if they inspect while you're fighting. :/
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:04 AM   #20
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I'd prefer cosmetic armor changes.

Make it so cosmetic armor is bought piece by piece (gold or TCs, depends if Glitch likes money or not XD), so you can selectively hide your weapon, armor, pets or anything else.
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