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Old 04-13-2013, 10:02 AM   #1
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combat recovery and divination basicly do the same. they make the base 10% regen in combat into a 15% base. how do they stack? does each give a 50% to base rate? making 10% x 1.5 = 15% and then that new 15% x 1.5 = 22.5%?

but if i read only battle mending and combat recovery it seems taht combat recovery makes base 10% x 1.5=15% and battle mending makes that 15% x 2 = 30%

but now if i add divination it states taht you end up at 35%. which would mean that combat recovery and divination stack not by multiplication but addition..in some weird way that its combat recovery x battle mending + divination?

seems weird. is there something wrong?

glitch, would you please answer if this is correct and if not change the text of the skills to clarify? or simply clarify here?

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Old 04-13-2013, 10:03 AM   #2
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So with 10% base regen, assuming 5% from Combat recovery, 5% from divination, and 35% from total with battle mending, Battle mending must give 15% with assumption that these skill %s are added like Crit Strike and 2H for 2H weapons?

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Old 04-13-2013, 10:05 AM   #3
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can you read?


edit: thx. hope somebody can read and clarify.

edit2: nope. they do not add an additional 15% recovery. they both turn the base 10% into a 15%. which is conflicting.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:09 AM   #4
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If it stacks like %chance to hit etc then it would be 15% of 100 for combat recov+ 15% of 85%(12.75%) for divination+ 15% of 72.25%(10.8%) for battle mending but that comes to ~38.5% not the 35% it says.
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i did not get that, ales. why of 100? o.O
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Because its 15% of what you regen out of combat which would be 100% of your regen rate.
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so. if hoodrat is right, combat recovery give you +5% base regen. same as divination gives you +5% base regen. and as well as battle mending gives you +15%(edit) regen?

weird non multiplying skills?
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:19 AM   #8
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so. if hoodrat is right, combat recovery give you +5% base regen. same as divination gives you +5% base regen. and as well as battle mending gives you +15%(edit) regen?

weird non multiplying skills?
Perhaps similar to the Crit Strike and Two-Handed skills for melee, yes.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:21 AM   #9
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those are weird. and should be.....made simpler >.<
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AHA! i forgot the base 10%!
90%x 15%=13.5 for combat recov
76.5%x 15%=11.5+13.5=25% for recov and divination combined
65%x 15%= 9.75+25= 34.75% or 35% with all 3 maxed. TADA
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Alright, thank you, ales. Hope this clears it up for you, milky.
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nope XD am still rather confused. ales math...does not make any sense for me >.< might be cause its so darn confusing tho >.<
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:26 AM   #13
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nope XD am still rather confused. ales math...does not make any sense for me >.< might be cause its so darn confusing tho >.<
assume she did it right and adding them together as the skill says equates to the multiplication she just did.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:27 AM   #14
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AHA! i forgot the base 10%!
90%x 15%=13.5 for combat recov
76.5%x 15%=11.5+13.5=25% for recov and divination combined
65%x 15%= 9.75+25= 34.75% or 35% with all 3 maxed. TADA
Dammit, I was writing this just as you did!

TADA indeed.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:28 AM   #15
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it does not. as her math makes combat rec give 13.5% instead of the 15% as stated in the skill.

no TADA effect at all
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it does not. as her math makes combat rec give 13.5% instead of the 15% as stated in the skill.
okay, from ales math, so 10% of 100% is 90%. So, another 15% of 90% is 13.5%

so then that is 10% + 13.5% = 23.5%, so 100% - 23.5 % = 76.5%. 15% of THAT is 11.45%, which is added to 23.5% = ~35% bonus.

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Old 04-13-2013, 10:30 AM   #17
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the skills nowhere say that they affect the 90% recovery which are cut off in fight. they state that they affect the 10% remaining in combat. so they apply on the 10% not the 90%..
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Glitchless, please help our little lizard brains with % gains on those two skills in protection to be clear, I am confused....
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:38 AM   #19
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to be clear. i know math well. but all this is rather backwards and confusing. which indicates taht its wrong somewhere. as the beauty of math is that its NOT backwards and confusing. its clear and follows exact rules.

combat recovery clearly states that it turns your base 10% regen during combat into a base 15% regen during combat. not any weird 13.5%.
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to be clear. i know math well. but all this is rather backwards and confusing. which indicates taht its wrong somewhere. as the beauty of math is that its NOT backwards and confusing. its clear and follows exact rules.

combat recovery clearly states that it turns your base 10% regen during combat into a base 15% regen during combat. not any weird 13.5%.
I don't know, I figure diminishing returns as with resists, mitigation, etc.
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