Intentional draws
Old 09-15-2018, 11:11 AM   #1
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Default Intentional draws

So it became aware to me after my first draw vs Nibbles that we get 2 fights credit towards double drop %, which is quite appealing to me as I plan to spend all rush town walking while in Q.

So my question is, what is the legality of 2 players intentionally idling in order to gain 2 fights credit towards double drop %? What about if I put out sacris and go full tank against noobs I can easily beat but can't kill me in order to force a draw? I'm not exactly sure which side of the line this falls on when it comes to arena fixing, as I'm not trying to lose on purpose and neither sides gain rating from a draw.

Glitch, I will not do this unles you give me the 'okay'.
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:20 AM   #2
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I didnt even read this post, would like to use this time to report sox for throwing a match against me though...
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:27 AM   #3
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It takes 5mins for a draw.Why waste 5mins when you can do at least several matches instead?
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:07 PM   #4
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Not okay.
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:24 PM   #5
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Fair enough. I won't be going that route then.
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:30 PM   #6
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why not? you already know throwing matches is bannable and still got nakkid vs me, when did people start following rules?
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:44 PM   #7
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Getting naked vs someone you know you cannot beat is not against the rules. If you throw matches you can win in order to inflate another toons rating then that is the bannable offense
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Old 09-15-2018, 01:55 PM   #8
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why would anyone think glitch would approve of people determining the outcome of matches based on the benefit to themselves rather than who is stronger? that's fixing at its finest.

Example: what if you're a rusher queueing for bonus.

you meet high rated friend in arena. "ok we're gonna draw for arena bonus kay bud? don't worry tho. i'm gonna be stealing rating from all your rivals"

did you srsly think this through before posting?
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Old 09-15-2018, 02:05 PM   #9
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why not? you already know throwing matches is bannable and still got nakkid vs me, when did people start following rules?
If you read forum threads as much as you insult glitch and everyone else, then you'll know that glitch says it's fine if there's no chance of beating your enemy. Your fleshies 2-hit me and I don't have enough vamps to counter fleshies without regen or miti. I go naked when there's no point in dragging out a match for a few minutes only to get the same result.
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:23 PM   #10
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what if both players go nekkid?:U
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:54 PM   #11
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what if both players go nekkid?:U
Well, when two players love each other very much...
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:35 AM   #12
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wait...if both players go nekkid...is it an "unarmed fight" or a "sword fight"?hmmmmmm
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:09 PM   #13
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So how about healers. Have had a fight vs dawl, and talking in clan others have had multiple fights where he just heals the hole fight with 0 attempt to do any dmg so he can draw. Probably cant win those fights since i assume he only does it against cnt stacking tanky toons with low dps but would healing to draw without any intention of winning?

Just wondering if i should bother to get a heal suit so i can do this against annoying ppl who are hard to beat and easy to lose to.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:51 AM   #14
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If you're trying to draw as an alternative to losing, that's fine. Trying to draw as an alternative to winning is not. It's a grey area based on hidden intention, so it's not likely anyone would ever be punished for such a thing, but that is the policy.
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Old 09-19-2018, 06:24 AM   #15
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So how about healers. Have had a fight vs dawl, and talking in clan others have had multiple fights where he just heals the hole fight with 0 attempt to do any dmg so he can draw. Probably cant win those fights since i assume he only does it against cnt stacking tanky toons with low dps but would healing to draw without any intention of winning?

Just wondering if i should bother to get a heal suit so i can do this against annoying ppl who are hard to beat and easy to lose to.
Dawl used heal for a few minutes until the damage bonus rises and then switch pouches and decimate you in within a few casts.
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:10 AM   #16
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Seriously? Heal with no intention of dealing damage? Everyone I use kok staff against ate dealt lots of damage however 5 minutes isn’t enough to kill. Often, I feel I need 30 more seconds... It is like using a 2h crusher and regen suit, except I am using heal suit to my advantage and to keep me alive. Do you have a problem with that?
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Seriously? Heal with no intention of dealing damage? Everyone I use kok staff against ate dealt lots of damage however 5 minutes isn?t enough to kill. Often, I feel I need 30 more seconds... It is like using a 2h crusher and regen suit, except I am using heal suit to my advantage and to keep me alive. Do you have a problem with that?
Yes. Stahp healing and just die
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Old 09-19-2018, 04:25 PM   #18
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Seriously? Heal with no intention of dealing damage? Everyone I use kok staff against ate dealt lots of damage however 5 minutes isn?t enough to kill. Often, I feel I need 30 more seconds... It is like using a 2h crusher and regen suit, except I am using heal suit to my advantage and to keep me alive. Do you have a problem with that?
In the fight with my alt i didnt see you cast any gem, and auto attacking with a staff isnt really dmg. I have 0 issues with it, just wanted glitch's response to see if i should be abusing it as well.
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Question nerffffffff

omg, does this mean we will be getting Anti-healing options for healers now? granted we do for self-sustaining regeners? Or even toons that vamp nao? omg omg omg. counters to everything!

nerf, counter, nerf, counter, nerf. everything nao
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omg, does this mean we will be getting Anti-healing options for healers now? granted we do for self-sustaining regeners? Or even toons that vamp nao? omg omg omg. counters to everything!

nerf, counter, nerf, counter, nerf. everything nao
There are already counters to healing. I've had the same thing vs dawl though, he never swaps to dots or anything just heals the whole fight doing 0 dmg
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