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Old 01-19-2014, 11:46 AM   #1
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Default too much haste.... OP?

i was talking with Dtm today about the LG honey badger pet which raises haste by 6% per pet. So we added up all the possible haste we could think of. Ali angel chest piece raises haste by 10% (correct me if i'm wrong) then sharpened steel r5 raises haste by 8% , melee haste r5 raises it by 10%, quicksteel r6 raises it by 12% so add them up...


melee haste r5 10% sharp steel r5 8% +quicksteel r6 12% + aliangel chestpiece 10% + 2 honey badgers 12% = 52% if we had on lvl 90 uncommon 1h piercer which is 10 delay and - the 52% our delay would be 5.2, this could be a possible exploit... I DONT KNOW. i never tested it. im just saying it could be a possible exploit. also if we vile tomahammer which is 100 LG 1h piercer which can raise haste by 20% ... this would make the delay 2.8 on the lvl 90 1h piercer correct? lemme know what yall think. i didnt even add this stuff up for other weapons

Weaponmaster CA= doubles haste if alone

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Old 01-19-2014, 11:58 AM   #2
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Auras don't stack, do math over again,
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:00 PM   #3
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wrong on multiple things, just gonna say no
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:05 PM   #4
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if auras dont stack, then its still 6% for both pets added., melee haste r5 + 10%, ali angel +10%,r6 quicksteel +12% = 42% WM ca doubling that if alone = 84% for 10 seconds? i'm assuming vile toma hammer would supercede the melee haste r5 aura then, still increasing this by 10% if we were using it. and if we used WM ca after it landed the aura, then ... would it be 104%? or is WM CA also considered an aura?
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:06 PM   #5
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getting warmer, take your time to think about it this time... last chance to turn in homework with corrections
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:06 PM   #6
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ca is aura as well, same as haste icon
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:09 PM   #7
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You should just refrain from posting this since you are completely wrong on how the math works in this game.

50% haste + 50% haste = 75% haste
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You should just refrain from posting this since you are completely wrong on how the math works in this game.

50% haste + 50% haste = 75% haste
i clearly said i wasn't sure if WM ca wasn't considered an aura or not. i just said correct me if i'm wrong. but i found out it is considered an aura. so the highest possible haste you could get is 20% melee haste from vile tomahammer, 12% from R6 quicksteel, and 10% from aliangel, and 12% from the badgers. which is 54% man. you would just be in a state of OPness, but jeez "refrain from posting, you didn't have to be like that about it" if you learned to read, you'd clearly know i said "correct me if i'm wrong"
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Old 01-19-2014, 02:08 PM   #9
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You should just refrain from posting this since you are completely wrong on how the math works in this game.

50% haste + 50% haste = 75% haste
This is incorrect.
50% haste should be looked at like a 1.5 multiplier of your attack speed.
50% haste + 50% haste = (1.5 * 1.5) = 2.25x normal attack speed.
Divide your base delay by the speed multiplier to get new delay.
Base delay of 10 / 2.25 = 4.44444 new delay.
Two 50% haste bonuses stacked is essentially a 125% bonus to your melee or ranged DPS.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:58 PM   #10
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Old 01-20-2014, 02:06 AM   #11
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Alienangel = 9%
r6 rune = 12%
pet1 = 6%
pet 2 = 6%
sharpened = 8%
haste aura = 10%
WM ca @ 85 = 40.5% in group and 81% solo (if I did the math right)

haste using aura = 1.09 * 1.12 * 1.06 * 1.06 * 1.08 * 1.1 = 1.6296
haste using ca grouped = 1.09 * 1.12 * 1.06 * 1.06 * 1.08 * 1.405 = 2.081
haste using ca solo = 1.09 * 1.12 * 1.06 * 1.06 * 1.08 * 1.81 = 2.6814

delay = 10

10 / 1.6296 = 6.14 delay = 0.878 seconds
10 / 2.081 = 4.805 delay = 0.6872 seconds
10/ 2.6814 = 3.729 delay = 0.533 seconds

I swapped out the wm ca for the haste aura.
Edit: fixed the typo XD

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Old 01-20-2014, 04:07 PM   #12
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:22 PM   #13
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Honey badger not for BM and not for caster., But for the rest of us melee toons ( crush,slash,pierce) it is a very good option !
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lol i actually did try to edit it twice but for some reason forumz didnt let me, obviously forumz dun like posts starting with an big F
Forums don't like it when you try to type in caps. OMG FFS TBH IMO ATM BBW.
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:19 AM   #16
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Seems to me its a start in getting less people using timmys and their op regen proc.
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omg again, Glitchy how comes a capital letter cant be typed at start following with a dot?
It can be. You just can't make your whole post caps
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:15 PM   #18
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2 badgers, aliangel bp (t2 because I like even numbers), melee haste r5, r6 rune and sharpened steel is 42.05563264% haste.

You also have to remember more hits per seconds means more chances at procing. You try using a pair of 90 piercers against anyone with half a hellram suit and see if you ever break through their damage shields
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2 badgers, aliangel bp (t2 because I like even numbers), melee haste r5, r6 rune and sharpened steel is 42.05563264% haste.

You also have to remember more hits per seconds means more chances at procing. You try using a pair of 90 piercers against anyone with half a hellram suit and see if you ever break through their damage shields
you forgot to mention quicksteel man... why would i use 90 piercers against someone with a shield? i'm just saying this would raise haste by 52% for a 1h with tomahammer, but if you excluded it, then it would be 42% if you substituted it with R5 melee haste. still a 42% haste increase is still.. really good
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