Old 09-29-2018, 12:41 PM   #81
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What is definitely imminent:
We will be allowing players to transfer from S2 to S1. This may come as a paid option but more likely from a merge.

What is likely imminent:
Servers will be merged. S2 players will retain all their assets.

What is in the future:
A classic server will be started where everyone must start from scratch. Players who were previously on S2 will be able to transfer to the classic server, taking only their paid upgrades. This will include an amount of TCs equal to the amount they held when they were merged into S1.

The sooner we get a lot of "that works for me, let's do it" confirmations, we'll prioritize this process. No solution will work for everyone, but we are dedicated to finding a solution that will allow those who invested in S2 chars the ability to participate in a meaningful arena/auction house experience.

If there is a small community of players who want to see S2 remain in its current form, even though its player base will shrink when we allow transfers, you need to let us know immediately. Having 3 servers is an option, but later transfers from S2 would not be allowed to prevent exploitation.
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Old 09-29-2018, 12:55 PM   #82
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This works for me! im not willing to stay on old server 2 so you know. Thanks for hearing us out Glitchless!
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Old 09-29-2018, 02:25 PM   #83
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This works for me!! Again thank you glitch for hearing us.
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Old 09-29-2018, 02:29 PM   #84
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I have no problem with current s2 changing - make the motions. [concerned for free players though]
All toons make it to s1: will the transfer back to s2 (after rebuild) cost as well?



I don't understand though... we can't compare s1 and s2 arena. I guess this is where the chats shouldn't be merged. (or make a third) What is an arena like with no lgs and cap of 60? And hence what makes it successful? Auction won't need to be as big either with no lgs. I can't see anything that would have s1 and s2 arena/auction/beast effect each other. "classic of yore" has already been written and is static. Was there even a beast then?

Another interrupting set of thoughts: create s3 to house toons while s2 is recreated them pop em back. OR Create an actual s3 with limited time toon(basically a name swap >,>) transfer. It strikes me that all toons hit s1 and then in the time it takes to ready and reopen s2, there'll be even fewer that want to be there anyway. What will happen to the toons that don't transfer? I know a couple of players that play just two or three times a year.


I encourage free players to make themselves heard, too. Whether you contact Glitch directly or speak out here. Players are players.


btw: sometimes I just ramble in these posts to bring points in hopes of better success in the end. Information which I can't make use of, but perhaps the people doing the actual work may find helpful. <,< They can dismiss it easily if not lol
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Old 09-29-2018, 03:03 PM   #85
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that works for me, let's do it
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Old 09-29-2018, 04:06 PM   #86
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Since it seems all but a sure thing now that s2 is merging with s1 (even though it was stated multiple times that it would never happen) I am curious if the clans and their runes will also crossover.

Personally, I wish Glitch would just tell everyone who made a toon on s2 (considering the VAST majority of them came from s1) to suck it up and either log or don't but no moving. If the s2 player has no toon on s1, then I can see possibly moving them to s1, but seriously ... if you have toons on s1 already, you knew full well what you were getting yourself in for making a toon on s2. All this complaining about s2 become asinine.

I can't begin to start over on any toons as I spent too much time, effort, and money on them.

My opinion (as useless as it is against a horde of crying people) is leave everything like it is. Make a 3rd server if you want. EVERYONE knew what they were getting into when they made the toon. If they didn't know from having a toon on s1 already, they sure as hell knew from all the s1 toons in global chat telling new s2 people to switch because of the size of the server.

Just my thoughts for whatever little they are worth.

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PS... I would like to see it where you must reactivate the s2 toon on s1 through the email associated with the toon to make sure they don't get moved from s2 to s1 when they want the toon to stay on s2 classic.

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Old 09-29-2018, 07:15 PM   #87
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Since it seems all but a sure thing now that s2 is merging with s1 (even though it was stated multiple times that it would never happen) I am curious if the clans and their runes will also crossover.

Personally, I wish Glitch would just tell everyone who made a toon on s2 (considering the VAST majority of them came from s1) to suck it up and either log or don't but no moving. If the s2 player has no toon on s1, then I can see possibly moving them to s1, but seriously ... if you have toons on s1 already, you knew full well what you were getting yourself in for making a toon on s2. All this complaining about s2 become asinine.

I can't begin to start over on any toons as I spent too much time, effort, and money on them.

My opinion (as useless as it is against a horde of crying people) is leave everything like it is. Make a 3rd server if you want. EVERYONE knew what they were getting into when they made the toon. If they didn't know from having a toon on s1 already, they sure as hell knew from all the s1 toons in global chat telling new s2 people to switch because of the size of the server.

Just my thoughts for whatever little they are worth.

-Umbra

PS... I would like to see it where you must reactivate the s2 toon on s1 through the email associated with the toon to make sure they don't get moved from s2 to s1 when they want the toon to stay on s2 classic.
do you even read what people post? he clearly said you get to keep all your stuff.
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Old 09-29-2018, 09:09 PM   #88
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do you even read what people post? he clearly said you get to keep all your stuff.
You would have to start over (except paid upgrades) if you wished to have your S2 char transferred to classic. You keep all your stuff if you stay on merged server.
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Old 09-29-2018, 10:30 PM   #89
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Glitch, I really hope you don't make a classic server. I don't think many people would actually play it. They say they will, but then they will run into the whole, no bgt, no hotkeys, all of these QoL things we take for granted now being gone and they will quit. Old nod was amazing at the time. But I think everyone is just looking back with rose colored glasses at the game, not remembering how unbalanced it was. How long everything took. How annoying some of the mechanics were. This would just take away from you working on projects for S1, which I think should remain your main/sole focus. There are still many, many things that need to be addressed on s1 that haven't been.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:26 PM   #90
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I agree with Ideaman that you should focus on S1, instead of worry with a second server.

Merge the servers and focus on upgrading S1. New mobs, areas, skills. Focus soley on S1. In my opinion. Make S1 better. It's the main bread and butter. Put a spark into it.

Because what happens if/when S1 starts to go down hill? There needs to be more new innovative stuff brought in. I will never make a toon on another server anyways. Have enough money tied up into one. Let alone a second.

P.S Triple accel would be awesome.

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Old 09-30-2018, 04:18 AM   #91
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I support Ideaman. I really don't see anyone eager to play a classic version of the game, but I have heard several calls for expanding the S1 universe as far as more areas and more mobs and such. I remember even reading an idea that asked for other areas that had the same level mobs from GS to Pit so that people aren't staring at the same scenery with the same mobs...they could decide to play Redwoods...or this other area that has level 96 and 97 mobs with an ELITE 98 boss.

They are just ideas, but I think they are some good ones and that would give folks even more variety in the random area bonuses/penalties that people can choose from to go and play.
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Old 09-30-2018, 05:08 AM   #92
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tbh i think more servers should be a thing only if we had the player base, i myself like the idea of a classic nod but like people say with certain features from future nod removed it will be more of a bore than it is now.

id like to see more updates to nod throughout the year instead of everything coming at xmas.
use what resources it takes to upkeep to servers and invest them in progressing s1 to where it needs to be. maybe even start new ad campaign to draw people into nod.
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Old 09-30-2018, 06:16 AM   #93
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I think we should just merge the 2 servers get rid of s2 all together. I have a couple of littles there that I would play if there was more in s2. But I don't want to pay to do it as they aren't worth it at the moment. Also it should be fair and not exploitable
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Old 09-30-2018, 07:11 AM   #94
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I think we should look into expanding and making s1 better rather than making new servers and further separate people. There's simply not enough people around to do things anymore, and as fun as classic server sounds, I think it would be fun for a day or two or a month and people would realise how painful was to cast without autocasting and to loot without hotkeys and whatelse not and they would give up fairly quickly. I don't think that's a good idea but that might be just me.

As for merging of the servers, I personally don't mind but isn't that a bit of an F U to people that invested a lot of money for s2 to become the very best there and all of a sudden they become average toons on s1? I mean, if they agree to it, I don't see why not, more people, more arena fun
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Old 09-30-2018, 09:28 PM   #95
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We're going to focus on the new S1 combined server now as suggested. If and when we decide to make a classic server, we will honor the ability for any former S2 player to transfer for free, starting from scratch, with all paid upgrades and TCs they currently have.
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