Old 09-16-2018, 10:33 AM   #21
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destroy legit/new players
are any new people even making it so far?in the past 12 months or so?only benefit for the new players that I see are arena tcs that take months and years to get, along with high activity and only to get all upgs eventually.

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flock of toons he sit
literally 2 with heavily penalized amplifier including my own, along with trash dps, but ok, let's ignore the times of "holyspirit/hiitman/boulders/bambam/pebbles/bitkojn/needle", that certainly wasn't a flock nor a single person :^]

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Because noone is after beast
Maybe if s2 had more active players?What is stopping people from searching and god forbid working together to kill it?Or is it just dead?

As Clau said she likes it "silent", but since most people prefer "multiplayer" games to be "multiplayer", and with s2 being mega dead, maybe the best solution is to transfer everyone, but also release a type of "singleplayer mode"?

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Big changes would revive server and give head start to those who already on it
big changes=big effort.what changes and would they be even worth the time and money instead of working on new content (as rare as it is already)?

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Old 09-16-2018, 12:11 PM   #22
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Only way for it to fairly done imo is for toons to be brought over to s1 as fresh toons (free reroll) with boon equal to their high on s2 with all paid upgrades and tcs sb to the toon.

Between the free extra xp for years, free tcs from arena and exploiting beasts, the rampant botting (yes toons got banned, who knows what all existing toons on s2 gained from it and got lucky at the time).

Just my opinion, and for those that will say its stupid or excessive or what have you, look at ALLLL the changes that have been implemented to STOP s2 from exploiting something since there were not many people and they all came to agreements.
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:58 PM   #23
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well i gotta say this..... considering that server 2 is supposed to be the 'weaker' server and everyone over there apparently doesnt have a clue what they are doing there are an awful lot of s1 toons stating thts 'its only fair' if we come over without t1 or t2 stuff..... we should lose everything we have worked for..... seems s2 isnt so weak after all
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:37 PM   #24
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i set 1 stipulation. any toons over 25b exp on s2. must transfer within 1 month of patch. (to prevent them from stockpiling or w/e to take advantage of transfer) or window to transfer closes. any toons under 25b exp. can transfer at any point. (pay same price ofc).

this way new toons that start on s2 can transfer. but no one can do a large exploit of making toon on s2. raise all skills. transfer to s1. you can cap on s2. but you aren't gonna have all epic skills 100.
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:12 PM   #25
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i set 1 stipulation. any toons over 25b exp on s2. must transfer within 1 month of patch. (to prevent them from stockpiling or w/e to take advantage of transfer) or window to transfer closes. any toons under 25b exp. can transfer at any point. (pay same price ofc).

this way new toons that start on s2 can transfer. but no one can do a large exploit of making toon on s2. raise all skills. transfer to s1. you can cap on s2. but you aren't gonna have all epic skills 100.
From my experience capping skills is way harder on s2 than s1

Ah is nearly empty and all trophies you need to farm yourself while selling 1 TC on S1 will get you all basic needed skills to 89 due super cheap trophies .

Apart from old strong toons in general S2 is way harder to progress due nothing being available .

Just saying...

Moving toons naked ? i think there is plenty unused caps with decent boon noone has time to play on S1 so pointless IMO....

Getting middle ground here would be tough .
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:31 PM   #26
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Okay...seems to be turning stronger to that finger pointing, clumping all players on a server into a pot, saying nothing productive...

Yes, I support the idea behind the thread.
  • Try to close the gaps of sat toons being able to transfer -- attach it to email or to last person who blissed on the toon, etc.
  • Perhaps all gear can be permanently soulbound (like Matt mentioned) - you can get use of what you've gained yourself, but little else.
  • Create a new paid reroll with higher price and these type of conditions to offer a "server reroll".
  • Bringing mats with them might be, albeit temporary, a way to bring market back into new player availability and give them hope in staying from the start. Getting several 1,000 gold from quests is a huge way from a 1.7million tc. Although, I really feel uninformed to really speak on the swapping mats even though they worked to get, rrt spent and all. Permanently soulbound all* items?

Aside: I do go after beast, but about all i can do is find it.... the two strongest toons i have can't do anything until about two hours or so of the beast sitting there. By that time one cap(or set of) or another has seen the messages and hops in to kill it.

Psst: above all, toons are OWNED by Glitchless - from the start to the end... as a business, they should hear their clients and respect their purchases, but, just like deleting an inactive toon with no purchase history, they have the right to poof toons or restart them. The *facts we present help them decide and we'll all have groove with it.


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From FAQ (what a wonderful thing): Can I transfer items/characters between S1 and S2?
Items and characters are not transferable between S1 and S2. Other than chatting, these servers are meant to be independent of each other. The only exception to this rule is real money purchased items such as TCs, Storage Expanders, and Inventory Expanders. If you have acquired these items directly from us and you realize you have decided you want them on a different server, you can e-mail help@nodiatis.com for assistance transferring them. Requests MUST BE MADE on the same day as the purchase -or- the requested amount to be transferred must be at least 25 TCs. Your characters must have a purchase history at least equal to the # of TCs being transferred.


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Old 09-16-2018, 06:52 PM   #27
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making toons on S2, to get 33% exp bonus, then go pk status, then level up fast, then transfer over to S1 after a few months, could potentially be an exploit. I would recommend removing the EXP bonus, then allowing players to transfer over to prevent server 2 being exploited as an exp breeding ground.

That being said, its a transition that should be looked into carefully. If a mistake is made, the primary server could be horribly damaged as a result.
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Old 09-16-2018, 09:54 PM   #28
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didnt super read this thread kinda cba aside the initial message. but it'd be easy for a s2 toon to use 33% exp bonus get super high exp and faster elarnigns / resourcings and come to s1 with it, if they can do that then geef s1 33% exp boost too to make it even
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:45 AM   #29
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After reading every post this is what i can come up wiht

Only toons made before 2018 has the ability to change server

its a reroll option that cost 10 tcs. only SB items, tcs, gold and paid upgrades can follow

The tcs becomes SB

That means less way to eploit the system, s2 toons cant bring alot of stuff to sell for profit and they have to work to get most of their skills back up again.
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:58 AM   #30
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Can see why some of you don't want us to bring stuff over, for the few toons with an army farming and hoading ress that make sense....
But for those who only played 1 single toon since the server started and can't craft by themselves that pretty much means paying to switch server and lose all they worked for over the years -.-
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:18 AM   #31
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Glitch, would you allow us to have our s2 accounts deleted in exchange for tcs equal to what we spent on our s2 characters on a s1 toon?
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Old 09-17-2018, 07:43 PM   #32
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I'm all for this, Perhaps we could limit the amount of items that they bring over that aren't SB? Like say... 100 per tier/type of mat can be brought over that can be traded, anything beyond that would be SB?
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:25 AM   #33
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As amazing as it seems people on both servers somewhat Ok with toon transfers. ..

I would like to focus on Zaark and Aquatic posts.

It's true that some people put lots of legit work to develop their toons as well spent countless RRT to gain resourcess and taking all this hard work away just for privilege to play on other server is simply a robbery.

Maybe at this point we should consider modified Aquatic idea ?

Instead focusing on s2 moving to S1 how about this :

Paid migrate reroll:

At cost of 10 tcs (debatable but fair) you would reroll and able to submerge on opposite server (either way)

That will require some thoughts before doing so .

If some thinks it would be easy to build up boon on s2 and worth to spend 10 TCS be my guest.

Trust me ... it's easier on S1 despite s2 bonus and on s2 you need to farm things yourself which takes forever if you start from scratch while selling few tcs on S1 provides decent boon in hours .

Over all full AH and economy is > 33% bonus.that only works as initial boost.

FYI : S2 bonus DOES NOT stack with boon on :

Stat exp
Learning exp
Crafting
Artistry
Adventuring
Social
Pilgrimage
Epic/LG skills

It DOES if

Using trophies for normal Combat skills...
That's all.


As you can see availability of cheap trophies can be more valuable than this s2 bonus

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Old 09-18-2018, 06:50 AM   #34
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As amazing as it seems people on both servers somewhat Ok with toon transfers. ..

I would like to focus on Zaark and Aquatic posts.

It's true that some people put lots of legit work to develop their toons as well spent countless RRT to gain resourcess and taking all this hard work away just for privilege to play on other server is simply a robbery.

Maybe at this point we should consider modified Aquatic idea ?

Instead focusing on s2 moving to S1 how about this :

Paid migrate reroll:

At cost of 10 tcs (debatable but fair) you would reroll and able to submerge on opposite server (either way)

That will require some thoughts before doing so .

If some thinks it would be easy to build up boon on s2 and worth to spend 10 TCS be my guest.

Trust me ... it's easier on S1 despite s2 bonus and on s2 you need to farm things yourself which takes forever if you start from scratch while selling few tcs on S1 provides decent boon in hours .

Over all full AH and economy is > 33% bonus.that only works as initial boost.

FYI : S2 bonus DOES NOT stack with boon on :

Stat exp
Learning exp
Crafting
Artistry
Adventuring
Social
Pilgrimage
Epic/LG skills

It DOES if

Using trophies for normal Combat skills...
That's all.


As you can see availability of cheap trophies can be more valuable than this s2 bonus
I'm fairly certain it works on every but epic/legendary/pilg exp.

On topic, I don't care if they can transfer everything or not. I don't think it will impact anything really on s1. Maybe for a week or two resources will actually have more than are being bought but that'll quickly die out. I'd rather they keep their gear etc, it takes a while to build a toon. Wouldn't make sense to take that away from them.

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Old 09-18-2018, 06:54 AM   #35
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it does, whether it's fight/trophy based.Furthermore:boon gives x3 trophies+33% per troph (normal/sb, it doesn't matter)=hella exp for epic/lg skills.Test before you speak.
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:08 PM   #36
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:20 PM   #37
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even if they come to s1 wich i would like to happen..one solutution to keep the hate locked would be to cut down the chat betwen the 2 servers..i think that was a bad ideea since day 1...and maybe s2 wil still have players willing to play it without being trashed by chat bullies from s1
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:06 AM   #38
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glitch any further forward with this please.....
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Old 09-21-2018, 01:50 AM   #39
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:40 AM   #40
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Anyone who made a main/high cap toon on S2 should have known the prior risk of the server being/becoming dead. No SUPPORT. it's unfair. Why should they be allowed to move their toons? it's not glitch's fault the server is dead. it's dead because no one wants to be on an identical server with only marginal xp buff when the majority of players who are competitive are on S1.

The only thing I agree with is what Zod has said, limit chat functions between both servers to stop toxicity.

S2 has abused beasts, has had many botters abuse the server, and have abused arena reward for TCS to cap toons. not to mention some people horde lgs on that server including mats. That's not glitch's fault. Blame the players who have done that. But allowing all these caps to transfer over, while it may sound logical and a good thing. That will cripple S2 even more than it currently is.

And no, we're not scared of S2 caps grumbly. The point is you don't need to change server. If you leave, S2 will die. making S2 a complete waste of time.

Glitch's only error with S2 was releasing lgs... it should have been a legacy server with only epics with 'unique' gear/tiers. Then I would be playing it as would many others.

tl/dr no support would kill S2.
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