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Huggles 07-25-2018 08:58 AM

3x Encumbered Suicide
 
For those who were interested, it does send you back to town, so you could use it to transport trophies if the 45 minutes of RRT is worth less than your IRL time.

Soxson 07-25-2018 09:49 AM

It's a known exploit, often done for farming 120+ zones where one kill is a guaranteed 3x encumbered. I remember sisix talking about this for farming ARL and up. I don't think should be addressed unless Glitch improves bulk trophy transport.

ShadeDaScout 07-25-2018 10:50 AM

more importantly:geef grind thingy

Pale 07-26-2018 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soxson (Post 198746)
unless Glitch improves bulk trophy transport.

It would is bulk trophy transport could be addressed.

Glitchless 12-04-2018 03:27 AM

Who was the first to report this?

Tsutsu 12-04-2018 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitchless (Post 200068)
Who was the first to report this?

No idea, but i reported it years ago as well.

Glitchless 12-04-2018 04:50 AM

Whoever can dig up their most ancient thread wherein they report this will get 10 TCs, provided it was before http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/sh...ght=encumbered

Algamisu 12-04-2018 05:01 AM

When glitch needs to ask people to find their old posts we know this forums could use an update

SiSiX 12-04-2018 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitchless (Post 200070)
Whoever can dig up their most ancient thread wherein they report this will get 10 TCs, provided it was before http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/sh...ght=encumbered

This is most likely the first one Glitch. I'd be really surprised if there was an active player that's brought this up prior to this. I've brought it up many many many times in /c and /u over the years and may have even asked you about it directly once when farming east of Andol became possible.

With the number of toons with Accel and DA that can farm beyond the Pit, never mind the number of toons with boon, AND the Inv/Storage expanders, we really need a bulk transport option beyond the small little bumps the two epic skills provide.

Gates and recalls are cheap when you can farm 1-2M or more an hour and TCs are going for 2M each. Making someone have to run multiple trips back to town after a single kill is no longer a grind, it's just an annoyance. Why farm anywhere higher than Redwood outside of Fa'ar if you're just going to be spending all your time gating and moving things between Inv/Storage?

Iesus 12-04-2018 06:14 PM

Read about this pre 2014 maybe older than that in Bugs section of the forum.

arra 12-04-2018 06:26 PM

http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2479 in 2009. I may not be zenga, but I will happily hold tcs for him until he comes back to play ;)

Huggles 12-04-2018 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiSiX (Post 200073)
With the number of toons with Accel and DA that can farm beyond the Pit, never mind the number of toons with boon, AND the Inv/Storage expanders, we really need a bulk transport option beyond the small little bumps the two epic skills provide.

Gates and recalls are cheap when you can farm 1-2M or more an hour and TCs are going for 2M each. Making someone have to run multiple trips back to town after a single kill is no longer a grind, it's just an annoyance. Why farm anywhere higher than Redwood outside of Fa'ar if you're just going to be spending all your time gating and moving things between Inv/Storage?

Agreed on nearly every point.

The fact that people are willing to spend 45 minutes of RRT just to move trophies quickly is proof that it's much too cumbersome. It'd be cheaper to gate in most cases, but many players prioritise time over money because it's simply a pain to do otherwise.

Boon's execution was a mistake. SB trophies should've just given 3x exp for all skills except epic skills. No need to drop 3x the trophies and make moving them annoying. Changing it now might be unfair considering so many people have used boon to cap their epic skills, whereas those who have not rerolled (including me) have had to work 3x as hard, but it still might be the right thing to do.

Huggles 12-04-2018 06:54 PM

Also, here's the earliest I could find, which predates Kris's post:

11 January 2009
http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/sh...ght=encumbered

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenga (Post 18253)
When one is encumbered for 3x his encumbrance level he can not gate, walk or start combat.

There is a way though to go back to town:

- start combat while not encumbered
- now put all the stuff from your storage in your inventory
- die in that fight and you'll go back to town (even if you are > 3x encumbered)

this will save you more time than gate, walk back, gate, etc ... to move your stuff to town, at any level/situation i can think off).

And here's your response, nearly 10 years ago, to that report:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitchless (Post 18329)
This is not likely to be changed.


SiSiX 12-04-2018 09:40 PM

I believe Glitch's response from 2009 pretty much says it all.

Soxson 12-04-2018 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 200089)
Boon's execution was a mistake. SB trophies should've just given 3x exp for all skills except epic skills. No need to drop 3x the trophies and make moving them annoying. Changing it now might be unfair considering so many people have used boon to cap their epic skills, whereas those who have not rerolled (including me) have had to work 3x as hard, but it still might be the right thing to do.

Omg yes please. As a booner, I would love for SB trophies to give 3x xp instead of getting 3x trophies at normal xp. Fights in 110+ zones give like a page of trophies, esp when grouped with toons who's trophs I am also looting. Looting them all is an inventory, storage and encumberance nightmare.


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