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Zomgbie 02-26-2010 03:19 PM

Miss miss miss miss miss miss
 
Since reset today I have noticed that I am missing noticeably more.

About my in-game character:
Player Level 25
57 Melee // Str 330 Dex 111
All Weaponry skills relevant to 1h crushing are at least level 28.
Weapons: Dual 1-h Ball and Chain // Exceptional accuracy

I have been grinding the same mobs in Obsidian Swamp (lev 26 & 27) for the past month, at least... and am now since reset noticing I am missing a lot more. A few others in civil chat have expressed that using crushing weapons, they are noticing more misses aswell. Again, these are the same mobs that I have been killing for the past month, all the while levelling my melee and crushing/weaponry skills.


Maybe the sticks and stones in the box that make up this game are out of order or something?

Roseblood 02-26-2010 03:29 PM

I am missing with My lvl 36 Staff more. With or w/o potions, I miss more. This add is supposed to make mobs miss less, not players to miss MORE... Jeff/Mike, please check it and make the mobs less close to invincible!

Roseblood 02-26-2010 03:30 PM

*As in, let Us hit them like We did, not at this low percent.

Pasterqb 02-26-2010 03:32 PM

"Dexterity is important to all ranged and melee fighters"
"It's primary function is to determine how likely you are to hit an opponent with all weapons"

Anymore questions? Crushers need Dex now and Piercers need STR if you read the them.

Zomgbie 02-26-2010 03:55 PM

Paster... clearly you didn't read my post, or just can't read.


It's not the stats. It's just the sheer fact I'm missing more since reset.

I have been killing the same friggen mobs for the past month, and only now I say something? Think before you post Paster.

I have noticed, only since server reset today, that I am missing more than usual. NOTHING has changed with my gear or runes. The only thing that has changed are my melee and weaponry skills (they have gotten higher *gasp*).

So why am I missing more?


All I am asking is for other people's experiences with their own accuracy since reset today, and perhaps for Glitchless to investigate the matter?

Pasterqb 02-26-2010 04:01 PM

I did think. Maybe just maybe he added a patch to increase the effectiveness of Dex. OH WAIT HE DID. /buttpwnt Zomg

Glitchless 02-26-2010 04:03 PM

This post has been removed due to being inaccurate and causing confusion.

Zomgbie 02-26-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasterqb (Post 74754)
I did think. Maybe just maybe he added a patch to increase the effectiveness of Dex. OH WAIT HE DID. /buttpwnt Zomg

If so, that totally effs the build that crushers typically use. Pure Str.

If so.. BALLS

Pasterqb 02-26-2010 04:04 PM

GLITCHLESS ANSWERED I WAS RIGHT. YOU ARE DUMB NOT ME.

Nuff said.

Zomgbie 02-26-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitchless (Post 74755)
All changes were documented in the patch notes. It is working as intended. With such low dex you should expect to miss a lot prior to and after the changes.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...es/fffuuuu.jpg

Zomgbie 02-26-2010 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasterqb (Post 74757)
GLITCHLESS ANSWERED I WAS RIGHT. YOU ARE DUMB NOT ME.

Nuff said.



Pff... Glitch gives the typical corporate answer...





So the changes totally effed crushers pure STR build that is so common? WTG!

Increase the effectiveness of strength then Glitch. May as well even it out now.

beetdabrat 02-26-2010 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitchless (Post 74755)
All changes were documented in the patch notes. It is working as intended. With such low dex you should expect to miss a lot prior to and after the changes.

I hope you take the part where it says strength plays a role in how often you hit with crushers then.

Beet Da Brat

Pasterqb 02-26-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zomgbie (Post 74759)
So the changes totally effed crushers pure STR build that is so common? WTG!

Increase the effectiveness of strength then Glitch. May as well even it out now.

Crushers and Piercers have always had the advantage over Slash cause they only needed to raise 1 stat or 1 stat far higher than the other whether it was STR or DEX. This is to balance out the order so that Crushers dont get 800+ STR or Piercers with 800+ Dex.

Zomgbie 02-26-2010 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beetdabrat (Post 74762)
i hope you take the part where it says strength plays a role in how often you hit with crushers then.

Beet da brat




yes

Zomgbie 02-26-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasterqb (Post 74763)
Crushers and Piercers have always had the advantage over Slash cause they only needed to raise 1 stat or 1 stat far higher than the other whether it was STR or DEX. This is to balance out the order so that Crushers dont get 800+ STR or Piercers with 800+ Dex.



SO?

That doesn't mean crushing or piercing was better than SLASHING

That doesn't mean that crushing should take a hit.

Glitchless 02-26-2010 04:15 PM

Scratch what was said about your dexterity - the fact that you are using a crusher nullifies that statement. Nothing was changed about the way Str/Dex are used to compute hit rates.

However, the fact that the extra miss rate on black mobs was changed from 100% to 50% where to the to-hit stats will play a more important role in your hit rate compared to that of another player. Overall the hit rates are still far higher for all types of weaponry and all stat builds.

klippi 02-26-2010 04:18 PM

Glitch, you just shut the door on stave damage.

edit: nvm didnt read ur statement :O

Zomgbie 02-26-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitchless (Post 74767)
Scratch what was said about your dexterity - the fact that you are using a crusher nullifies that statement. Nothing was changed about the way Str/Dex are used to compute hit rates.

Sure doesn't seem like it.


Time to read thru code and figure out the glitch. :rolleyes:

Roseblood 02-26-2010 04:23 PM

Yeah.. :( That's why I was missing so much and allmost got killed by red/orange mobs today. And I gave up killing black mobs in MD4 and SH to stop wasting time. Now I have to kill white and greens?! :/ Not fair.

Roseblood 02-26-2010 04:24 PM

<------Because I am a caster...


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